.Net 3.5 Sp1 Won’t install in Windows 8?

When you start using windows 8 and installing some software you might find that things won’t work.

The first classic problem is Windows Identity foundation 3.5 isn’t not enable

Also you will find you can’t install software as easily as you use it.  It has moved to a server type arrangement where you have to enable certain software rather than install it.

Sometimes you will find that although you download something like .NET 3.5 you can’t run the installer because you have to enable it in the add windows features.  The problem I was having was it threw an error when I tried to enable .NET 3.5

if you run into this problem this forum post has the solution

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdeveloperpreviewgeneral/thread/670dd964-11cf-4006-96ee-1bf2e16e9979

The answers from the page

 

Put the DVD in the drive or mount the iSO and run this from a CMD with adminrights:

dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFX3 /Source:d:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess

(replace D with your DVD drive). This installs .net 3.5.1 without internet access.


or

 

if your version is 8102

you can try this:

first put your windows 8 cd-rom and opne cmd runs as administrstor then input the order

 

 

dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFX3 /Source:d:\sources\sxs

 

 

d:is your CD-ROM

onther way

first put your windows 8 cd-rom and opne cmd runs as administrstor then input the order

 

xcopy d:\sources\sxs\*.* c:\net35 /s   (d: = CD-ROM)

Dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFX3 /All /Source:c:\net35 /LimitAccess

Using Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 and CRM 2011

I have been installing some software on Windows Server 2012 and setting up the CRM Outlook Addin on Windows 8.

Using the new version of windows is tricky to begin with because you can’t find anything, navigating around feels like waundering around in a maze.

You come to a crossroads and then head off in one direction hoping it’s the right one.

Some of this is just because it’s different and I’m not used to it and some of it’s weird because it’s made for touch screen devices.  The best way I can describe this is it all feels a bit odd and unintuitive.

Still I don’t want to be a Windows 8 basher, soon enough we will all be used to it and it’s quirks (hopefully with company tablets to ease the pain).

Although I cannot imagine how scores of Office workers will cope, I saw people struggling for months when Microsoft brought in the Ribbon menu.

My installation of CRM 2011 on Windows 2012 was problametic and some of the reason for this is because it isn’t supported.  I stupidly assumed that given the amount of time Microsoft has had they would have sorted this but I ran into a couple of problems and thinking about this it may take them some time to fix these issue

The first problem was the Indexing Services.  One of the prerequisites for installing CRM is turning on File Services, Windows Server 2003 File Services and the all important Indexing Service.

In Windows 2012 the indexing service has gone and CRM isn’t very happy about this at all, in fact you won’t be able to get very far into an install at all.  Daniel Cai has a work around for this on his blog which involves putting the windows indexing service command line tool and dll’s in the System32 folder.

The second problem I had was CRM 2011 was not compatible with IIS 8, I also had problems during the install with messages about.NET 4 etc.

This puts new customers of CRM in a quandry, do they not buy Windows Server 2012 because they won’t be able to install CRM 2011 on it??

I also wonder how long it will take Microsoft to fix this?

Windows 8 had a few problems when using CRM 2011, you have to manually enable Windows Identity Foundation

http://metaphorix.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/windows-8-and-crm-outlook-problem-cannot-connect-to-microsoft-dynamics-crm-server/

Also there is a problem using internet explorer 10 but Microsoft have a kb article for that below

Support with Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 and Internet Explorer 10

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2743941 

The problems and rantings above are probably fairly standard stuff for a new  release of a windows operating system, in fact they seem quite minor.

Windows 8 will certainly make the future installations interesting and it’s refreshing in some ways to be involved with new software.

CRM 2011 – adding the CRM Outlook add on in windows 8 needs Windows Identity Foundation manually enabling

If you have a new laptop and try and install the CRM 2011 outlook client then you will probably get an error when Outlook tries to use the CRM 2011 discovery service and display the different organisations you can add to outlook.

This is what happened

Windows 8 installed and Microsoft Office installed

I downloaded the Outlook Client add on

Installed the outlook client addon and then applied rollup 10

When you open Outlook it will pop up the CRM configure Organisation screen which asks you to put in the url of your CRM server.

It’s at this point you get an error saying it cannot connect to the discovery service.

So far I have had 3 Windows 8 installation and this problem has occurred on all 3 and for some reason by default the Windows 8 installation does not have the Windows Identity Framework.

To resolve this problem you need to enable Windows Identity Framework 3.5 and this took me a while to find but that was only because at the moment Windows 8 is different

1.  You need to get to the control panel (here are some ways here)

2.  Go to Programs –> Turn Windows features on or off

3.  Enable/tick Windows Identity Foundation 3.5 and press the OK button


You should now be able to continue with your CRM 2011 Addon installation and go back to the CRM configuration tool, put in the url of CRM 2011 server and pick the organisation

CRM 2011 – Rollup 10.2 – a rollup of a rollup

When I saw there was another CRM rollup and it was called rollup 10 I had a sense of deja vu about the rollup, in fact I was pretty sure I had installed Rollup 10.

after a bit of digging around I have found Microsoft have released a updated version of the rollup (why not call it rollup 11!) because users have been experiencing problems.

Firstly if you want to know detailed information rather than the summary or juicy bits then go to the link below

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/13437.update-rollup-10-for-microsoft-dynamics-crm-2011.aspx

Release schedule

Update Rollup 10 for on-premises CRM servers and CRM Outlook clients was released on August 16th, 2012. The estimate for Update Rollup 10 release date for CRM Online customers is on the week starting on October 8th, 2012  .

Update Rollup 10 contains all the hotfixes that were originally scheduled to be released with Update Rollup 9, which has since been cancelled due to the changes in the release schedule for Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 Q2 2012 Update functionality  .

Due to several issues experienced by users who deployed the initial Update Rollup 10 (build number 5.0.9690.2730), Microsoft re-released Update Rollup 10 on October 4th, 2012. The new version (build number 5.0.9690.2740) replaced the original UR10 files on Microsoft Download Center. Read the post regarding the re-release  on the Dynamics CRM in the Field blog.

Highlights

  • Many performance and stability-related fixes, including in total 30 hotfixes related to the CRM Client for Microsoft Outlook
  • Quick Find performance optimizations and EnableRetrieveMultipleOptimization (ERMO) SQL query performance optimizations
  • Compatibility with new and upcoming products from Microsoft
    • Windows 8: KB2744954 
      • Note: Windows Identity Foundation 3.5 (WIF) feature must be enabled manually in Windows 8:KB2727137 
    • Internet Explorer 10: KB2743941 
      • Note: Only the Compatibility View in IE10 supports CRM 2011 and must be enabled manually for the CRM server URL
    • Office 2013 Preview: KB2744957 

So I think this would be a good release to install if you have any users on Windows 8 and definitely if you installed the original Rollup 10.

Windows 8 and Yammer

Software updates can be sometimes be easy and sometimes cause howling of frustration

People have started to updated to windows 8, which seems a lot a faster than the previously version of windows but does take a little bit of time to get used to (there’s no start button!).  The first impressions of Windows 8 is it looks fantastic and new interface is easy to use.  The one puzzling aspect is it does act like a tablet screen which means you can only have one application on screen at one time, this is great for tablets but not always ideal for desktops.

The developer who upgraded his windows 7 desktop had a very simple job taking under 2 hours to upgrade but the person who had to update their MAC had quite a task on their hand, which even involved visiting an Apple shop to get some help from someone known as Obi-Wan.  Obi-Wan used the force and we now have Windows 8 successfully running on a Mac.

I haven’t taken the plunge myself yet because I (in my wisdom) setup my laptop to use windows server 2008 so I could have hyper v on my laptop.  The downside is I would have to have a totally new install to have Windows 8.  I am at the moment working up the ethusiams for the task, it might be a new year thing.

One gotcha with Windows 8 and installing .NET 3.5, the full details are below in the Microsoft kb article

Error codes when you try to install the .NET Framework 3.5 in Windows 8 or in Windows Server 2012

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2734782

Yammer

The company I work for (Metaphorix) have decided to use Yammer.  I think this is a good idea because hopefully in a future release of CRM yammer will be fully integrated.

My first impression is Yammer seems to be a bit like an internal company twitter feed where you can create groups (twitter lists maybe or hashtag) which enables users to subscribe to groups (sales, developers, CRM, NAV, Support, etc etc) and share/receive information for certain groups.

The main driver for wanting to use Yammer is reduce the amount of internal emails being sent because  this is not an efficient method of sharing information.  Also users who receive a lot of emails can basically lose information because their inbox is receive too many emails for them to read and respond to all of them.

Like most new pieces of software the trick is understanding how to use it to fit in your companies working ecosystem and processes, not to mention it can be difficult to change peoples working habits.